Spider Jars? Why was I not informed of this!? - Page 2

[:1]From the Acid Cloud wiki page is this quote by Flux:

"It’s an interesting description, and a pity we couldn’t see this one in action, to see just how the thrown bottle, explosion, and acid cloud was handled. So how long is the delay between the initial explosion and then start of the acid rain? Would a fast monster take only the 1-5 damage, and move out of the area before the more painful DoT Aoe began?"

I bolded the phrase "thrown bottle" because Flaming Skull may not be the only WD skill which uses a jar, bottle, or container of some sort.

That being said, what advantage would a jar of spiders offer over a cloud of poison? It seems like they'd both do poison damage.|||not sure what skill it was but i think its flaming skull that they fill with stuff, light it and throw it. it'll be a rune effect of flaming skull. put spiders in a jar!|||Quote:








That being said, what advantage would a jar of spiders offer over a cloud of poison? It seems like they'd both do poison damage.




Yeah, this is what has me wondering. If it's a rune effect for flaming skull then the skill would basically become acid bottle, and if it's for acid bottle then it seems to not change the skill very much at all.

This is assuming that the spider jar simply leaves a DoT effect at the site of impact. It could, of course, do something wildly different, but judging from 1) The now-defunct WD skill Spider Totem (a totem-based DoT that sent out swarms of spiders) and 2) the fact that throwing a jar of spiders implies that the spiders are small and numerous, it seems safe to assume that the basic mechanic is one where the WD throws a jar which shatters at a selected spot and releases this swarm of spiders.

Due to the implication of poison damage as pointed out by pcguy, I would wager that this is an effect for acid bottle. If it is, it might simply improve the existing mechanics, increasing damage/duration/range.

But the shift from acid to spiders seems to indicate a more drastic change. I'm hopeful that the devs are really using their "runes can drastically alter how skills operate" idea. Maybe the spider swarm has limited movement and can track enemies, or perhaps turns the skill into a full-blown swarm minion (like the Wiz familiar, untargetable and lasting a set time)? Who knows.



tl;dr I'm guessing it's an effect for acid bottle, and that it might do something really neat or just ok.|||I would think that if they spread, it's effectively an increase in radius. Being spiders, it could have a confusion type effect on living things (maybe they swat at them?).|||The short description of the skill implies a large amount of small spiders. If there are tons of spiders swarming and biting an enemy, that enemy may suffer from confusion, fear, poison damage, physical damage, hindered movement, or reduced accuracy.

If we stop assuming that the spiders in the jar are numerous, and they turn out to be perhaps 3 medium-sized spiders, the spell turns into more of a summon-type spell like Corpse Spiders.

One more thing to note, the visual will probably be different than the original visual for Spider Totem: "The Spider Totem had a noisy look, a player would cast this in a combat situation, and the entire screen was filled with small spiders which made it hard to concentrate."|||I remember this spell from blizzcon just being a thrown jar that released a bunch of spiders that psned everything around them. Runes could prob add fire spiders or confusion effects.|||I'm hoping for a rune that causes the mass of little spiders to find enemies and explode for fire damage. Or a rune that would create one large spider made of of the smaller ones for a neat style and could be a bit of a temp pet.|||How on earth does a flaming skull become a spider jar? No relation whatsoever. I think it's a completely seperate spell on its own. If you ask me, the spider struck me as really stupid. It didn't really do anything, just waddled around minding its own business without a care in the world.|||It is definitely Corpse Spiders. On the wiki site it says something like... "Summons a mother spider to protect her young". Explains the "mist" which is prolly little creepy crawlies.

They said there would be a rune to make firebomb drop spiders, but it is most likely separate from what we saw.|||That is beyond epic, glad they are getting inventive on new abilities.