Wednesday, April 18, 2012

I hate the witch doctor - Page 2

The only problem I had with the witch doctor is that he doesnt look so human, more like a troll or something....

And another thing that annoyed me was the zombie-like-wall-spell, maybe the idea of a attacking wall is kinda nice, but why would those zombies stand perfectly in line and not move at all? not very logical to me....

To be clear, I'm really really excited about D3, but those are just some minor annoyances that crossed my mind.|||its cuz they're stuck in the ground

i dunno i think the gameplay looks cool. and keep in mind we've only seen 6 skills.

reminds me a little of the conjuror in Nox which was the only class I beat the game with|||Quote:








First, I don't really want to play a class hunched over like an ape dragging his knuckles. But, secondly, he's just really underwhelming compared to the barbarian's completely over the top effects.




I'll have to concur with that. I like the Necro and the WD looks like he'll support that kind of play style so that makes him good enough as a class.

The animations are indeed underwhelming. The hunched over walk worked for Troll Shamans in WC, but it doesn't work that well for a human. Apart from the Zombie Wall the other skills didn't have impressive visuals. A puff of smoke for blowing up the Mongrel instead of a decent gory explosion. Locust Swarm looks like a bunch of leaves with neon lights.




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The ability to pop your own pets really excites me. Depending on how powerful this is, it could easily be one of the most powerful abilities in the game, perhaps even useful in pvp, and would be a real boon to anyone playing untwinked.




You can make FG explode in DII. It does a measily 100 physical damage and 100 fire damage.|||Quote:








its cuz they're stuck in the ground

i dunno i think the gameplay looks cool. and keep in mind we've only seen 6 skills.

reminds me a little of the conjuror in Nox which was the only class I beat the game with




Hit the nail on the head, I too was disappointed with some of the Witch doctor skills displayed but I also realized that they displayed a tiny bit of the skills that will be available to both classes. Think about all the skills available to the classes in D2. There are plenty of skills you dont use and even entire skill trees you dont touch.|||Blizzard won't reconsider the Witch Doctor because there's nothing wrong with the class. Also, the Witch Doctor DOES look like a person. Go to the website and look at the Witch Doctor page. How does he not look human to you? You do realize he was wearing a big tribal mask in the gameplay demo, correct?

Mostly I'm shocked we've actually got people demanding that everyone be some straight-standing spectacularly over the top guy that flings ragdolls and makes blood fly. Do you really want EVERY class to be the same? The Witch Doctor's attacks thus far have far more "oomph" than anything the Necromancer had. What was his most kinetic attack, the bone spear maybe?

Lastly, the fact that we're judging the entire class based on like... 4 spells, is ludicrous. Everyone complaining is basically acting like they know for a fact this guy won't summon any undead minions. You did see the zombie wall, right? So he CAN summon undead. Just wait and at least see what they're doing with it before you huff and puff.

You guys (as in everyone who's flinging their noses up in the air and is sickened that Blizzard would dare replace the Necromancer with a more versatile class) jump the gun and are way too butthurt over something just because it's different from what you know. If you want Diablo II, go play Diablo II. I want Diablo III however, and I don't want some outbursts from a loud minority to ruin anything this game is trying to make.

We've even got people making threads saying Blizzard should make the game less colorful. *Headdesk* Nevermind just turning down your monitor saturation, they want the color to be gone for everyone.|||Well said CaptainDingo. This is D3, not D2. Its a new game. And the Witch Doctor is a refreshing and unique class, instead of using popularized archetypes which have been done to death in so many other games.

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If you want Diablo II, go play Diablo II. I want Diablo III however, and I don't want some outbursts from a loud minority to ruin anything this game is trying to make.




Who said anything about wanting DII? Just because there are some resevervations regarding a single character class suddenly every one who is not over the moon wants nothing else than DII.1? Not only that, but those who do not like the hunched over look are apparently going to ruin every thing that DIII brings because of it?|||I also really like the witch doctor so far. Seems just as good as the old necro to me.

Some of you are disappointed in not getting the necro I guess. I'd feel the same way if it was the Barb who was left out.|||You guys have to understand. Blizzard didn't keep the good ones back.

I work in the game industry. When you create a big fuss and you put your product out there, you are not going to show them the meager skills. You give it the best 20 minutes you can produce without giving the game away.

I will bet my house that if you asked Blizzard about the witch doctor off record and you worked there, they'd tell you that it's not quite up to snuff.

Barbarian was just astoundingly well done. Most of the classes in D2 were impressive on some level to about the same degree (if you took large pools of opinion).

That was the best they had for WD. It wasn't good.|||There's a quote in one of the Q&A's about how the WD doesn't eliminate the possibility of having a necro in D3.


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[Fugu_]: Witch doctor = spiritual successor to the necromancer?

[Fugu_]: ...No

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[Fugu_]: Thought about improving Necromancer, really cool class.

[Fugu_]: Witch Doctor would not prohibit making a necromancer.




from here http://www.diabloii.net/n/668039/dia...net-transcript

so... all speculations about WD being the necro go against what Blizzard themselves say they are trying to do. It's unclear to me with the few spells shown just how close they are. Obviously the fire bomb spell is closer to an Assassin skill than a necro skill, the one with the bugs seems to work like similar to chain lightning from sorcs. So, it's clearly not just a simple implant of a necro into a different suit, it's something altogether new, and apparently it's creation doesn't guarantee the exclusion of the necro. But I guess people love to speculate.

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